🕯️ Traditions PAGANO BA ANG PASKO?

[Gildarts Tale]

PAGANO BA ANG PASKO?

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Kahit magtanong tayo sa kahit sino kung bakit sila nagdiriwang ng Pasko, wala tayong maririnig na nagse-celebrate sila for a pagan practice. Ang mga tao ngayon ay nagdiriwang ng Pasko dahil sa kapanganakan ni Kristo, proving na ito ay isang Christian tradition. Kung iisipin ang mga ayaw nalang magdiwang nito ang nagre-relate dito sa mga ancient pagan practices —na malamang sa malamang kahit sila hindi naman din pamilyar!

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SATURNALIA, SOL INVICTUS, AT PASKO

Historically, may ginaganap na pagan festival sa ancient Rome na tinatawag na "Saturnalia" in honor of Saturn, the Roman god of agriculture and time tuwing December 17-23. Ang 25th day of December naman ay dedicated sa birthday ng pagan sun-god named Sol Invictus ("The Unconquerable Sun") who became the official deity of Rome. Pinagdiriwang nila ang season na 'to by gift-giving, decorating wreaths and other greenery, pagsusuot ng colorful clothes at pagpa-party. Saturnalia was considered the merriest Roman festival that time. Unti-unti, pinalitan ng mga early Christians ang pagan feast na 'to ng Christmas celebration. Some of the practices ay nanatili pa rin pero binigyan na ng Christian meanings. In other words, ang mga pagan meanings ay wala na matagal na.

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SO, PAGAN NGA BA?

The fact na kailangan mo pang i-research ang kung anu-anong pagan practices noon proves na ibang-iba na ang meanings ng practices na 'yon ngayon. Hindi na mahalaga kung ano ang significance ng mga traditions sa mga tao centuries ago, dahil iba na rin naman ang mga kahulugan ng mga ito ngayon.

This is closely related sa instance na some believers, usually from Protestant faith, ay may negative connotation sa Pasko just because the word "Christmas" has its origin sa term na "Christ-mass" na associated sa Catholic practices. Let's take note na ang mga meanings ng mga words ay nagbabago over time. Ang origin ng isang word ay hindi laging present-day meaning ng term na 'yon.

Today, Christmas is the celebration of the birth of the Son of God as human being, not the birth of the so-called sun-god. Ang gift-giving ay ginagawa natin tulad ng pagbibigay ng gifts ng Wise Men at pagbibigay ng Diyos ng ultimate gift na si Jesus, hindi para i-honor ang pagan deity na hindi naman natin kilala (unless ire-research pa natin sa Google). Nagsusuot tayo ng colorful, nagde-decorate at nagsasaya, hindi naman dahil masagana ang ani, kundi dahil we celebrate the truth that sometime in history, the Savior was born. Nagsisindi tayo ng kandila, because we believe that Jesus is the Light of the world (Jn 8:12) hindi dahil substitute ang "light" sa human sacrifice ("man" and "light" both had the same Greek term: phota). Also, makikita rin natin ang connection ng idea ng substitution to human sacrifice ng mga Romans sa Christian faith, dahil si Jesus ang naging human sacrifice para sa'ting lahat by being our substitute (1 Ptr 2:23-25; Mk 10:45).

We are all after sa biblical meanings ng Pasko kasama ng traditions nito. The earliest Christians who celebrated Christmas in December, hindi rin naman ginawa ang mga practices for the sake of these pagan beliefs. Kaya nga nakakapagtaka kung ikaw ay believer tapos panay-hukay ka ng mga pagan meanings without considering first the biblical significance. (Hala, pagano ka ba?)

Kung ang Christmas traditions ay hindi naman mako-consider na pagan practices, can we say at least na ang Christmas ay pagan origin na nag-transform lang into a Christian holiday? No. We lack any evidence to support that. Kung gusto natin malaman talaga ang pinanggalingan ng Pasko, we should all go back to Bethlehem when Christ was born as stated by the Gospels. As believers, si Lord na ang goal natin sa mga ginagawa natin (Col 3:23). The same reason why we celebrate Christmas.

Kung may insights man tayo na makukuha sa relation ng ancient pagan practices sa Christmas traditions, ito ang reality na ang Christian faith ay victorious against false religions during ancient time. Ang mga practices nila na makikita pa rin sa'tin ngayon ay hindi dapat tingnan bilang pagan activities na nakapasok sa faith natin---NO! But rather as "remnants" and "trophies" of Christ's triumph, proving that Sol Invictus, the "Unconquerable Sun-god" of the ancient Rome, was conquered by the Son of God Himself ---who was born of a ******, laid in a manger.

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[plhbg1]

lol it is a symbol of a religion compromised by another religions, basically christianity was tweaked a bit to fit with the pagans

 

[Gildarts Tale]

lol it is a symbol of a religion compromised by another religions, basically christianity was tweaked a bit to fit with the pagans

Basa ulit.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

lol it is a symbol of a religion compromised by another religions, basically christianity was tweaked a bit to fit with the pagans

That is not even news. Alam ng mga serious theists na ang religion ay parang battle of the gods. Defeat them or let them in.
Very zealot mindset para sa isang agnostic.

 

[plhbg1]

Basa ulit.

nah you're just thinking christianity owned pagans, may pina holy pa but actually you've got compromized

That is not even news. Alam ng mga serious theists na ang religion ay parang battle of the gods. Defeat them or let them in.
Very zealot mindset para sa isang agnostic.

lol haha ok lang iyan if it impacted you as news which you disagree

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

nah you're just thinking christianity owned pagans, may pina holy pa but actually you've got compromized

Even evolution works that way. You evolve to compromise, then natural selection to compete.
Only zealots would think that it's wrong.

 

[plhbg1]

Even evolution works that way. You evolve to compromise, then natural selection to compete.
Only zealots would think that it's wrong.

evolve to compromise? so christianity now accepts evolution? akala ko ba complete (mess) na yung bible tas ngayon pwede na pala ma-develop/evolve/update

 

[ZerocodeYT PHC]

Ang pasko at para lang sa mga bata pag adults na malungkot na

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

evolve to compromise?

Oo. Ang tao lang marami compromise. Hindi tayo kasing lakas ng ibang primate. Mahina ang senses ng tao kumapara sa ibang. Kapalit ng intelligence. Compromise twag dun kahit pano isipin.

 

[plhbg1]

Oo. Ang tao lang marami compromise. Hindi tayo kasing lakas ng ibang primate. Mahina ang senses ng tao kumapara sa ibang. Kapalit ng intelligence. Compromise twag dun kahit pano isipin.

haha the cutting technique to eliminate the context, since out of context na reply i'm out

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

haha the cutting technique to eliminate the context, since out of context na reply i'm out

Takot ka lang kasi magigisa nnmn logic mo mahina.

so christianity now accepts evolution? akala ko ba complete (mess) na yung bible tas ngayon pwede na pala ma-develop/evolve/update

Dati na merong update ang bible. Ung new testament.

 

[plhbg1]

Dati na merong update ang bible. Ung new testament.

so now you call the book as bible without the new testament? magkaiba siguro tayo sagot sa when did the bible get completed

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

so now you call the book as bible without the new testament? magkaiba siguro tayo sagot sa when did the bible get completed

Kino conflate mo ang bible at ang tradition. Magkaiba yun. Bible is already complete. Pero traditions will continue to evolve. Im sure magiging acceptable na ang homosexuality at some point, maybe not in my lifetime, pero it will happen. Only zealots will think that its a bad thing.

 

[plhbg1]

Kino conflate mo ang bible at ang tradition. Magkaiba yun. Bible is already complete. Pero traditions will continue to evolve. Im sure magiging acceptable na ang homosexuality at some point, maybe not in my lifetime, pero it will happen. Only zealots will think that its a bad thing.

haha out of context again, i'm out again

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

haha out of context again, i'm out again

Ikaw tlga ang nagpupumilit umalis sa context. Iniiba mo lng kasi dead end na logic mo.

 

[plhbg1]

Ikaw tlga ang nagpupumilit umalis sa context. Iniiba mo lng kasi dead end na logic mo.

but anyways, it's good that positive ang view mo na christianity can eventually compromise a bit with homosexuality, ayan ha dapat happy ka na nag support na ako sa iyo kasi takot ako maging zealot haha

 

[Ja_Blues]

it's a western tradition,. Santa Claus, snow, Christmas tree etc.. wla nman tyo yan sila lng Meron nyan

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

but anyways, it's good that positive ang view mo na christianity can eventually compromise a bit with homosexuality, ayan ha dapat happy ka na nag support na ako sa iyo kasi takot ako maging zealot haha

Malfunction k na paps?

it's a western tradition,. Santa Claus, snow, Christmas tree etc.. wla nman tyo yan sila lng Meron nyan

Ung ampaw kasi saka ninong at ninang, enough na adaptation pra sa pasko.

 

[soceleste]

mewwy chwithmath

 

[Bilimanok]

Kino conflate mo ang bible at ang tradition. Magkaiba yun. Bible is already complete. Pero traditions will continue to evolve. Im sure magiging acceptable na ang homosexuality at some point, maybe not in my lifetime, pero it will happen. Only zealots will think that its a bad thing.

homosexuality tanggap naman yan ng church at hindi nila tanggap e yun pakikipag-talik sa kapwa sa same *** kaya kinakasal pa nga nila sa simbahan hindi naman nagagalit or nag-rereact ang simbahan remember PBB OTSO MITCH