🕯️ Traditions UN - Peace and Security - Russia Ukraine War

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1 Thessalonians 5:3 - "Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a preg.nant woman, and they will by no means escape."


Ang galing ng bible. Sakto yung term na ginagamit ng mga leaders at UN kagaya ng nakahula sa bible na sasabihin daw sa future :)
 
From what version of the bible yan?? Others kasi says “peace and safety”

And its not surprising nmam na banggitin ng UN yan given the current situation now sa ukraine, since and Peace and Security is one of its pillars for reform…
 
From what version of the bible yan?? Others kasi says “peace and safety”

And its not surprising nmam na banggitin ng UN yan given the current situation now sa ukraine, since and Peace and Security is one of its pillars for reform…

Same lang naman ng point sir kung peace and security/safety...

Okay copy po :)
 
Same lang naman ng point sir kung peace and security/safety...

Okay copy po :)
Kaya nga im clarifying kasi sabi mo na “ang galing at sakto ung term” …just saying na other versions the bible says “safety” and not security… thats not sakto and same term…

One more thing.. ung announcement na yan ni thomas eh a good thing given the situation.. pero ang mas may bearing sayo eh ung pagkaka”sakto” ng sinabi nea kesa dun sa mismong message nea.. na ang kasunod pa kamo eh “then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a preg.nant woman, and they will by no means escape." … so ur celebrating pa na magwoworse ung mangyayari???

Jeeeez….

for me kasi mas dapat icelebrate na its a step na hopefully would result to actual peace dun ukraine rather that sending a message na may unescapable sudden destruction pa na parating…
 
Kaya nga im clarifying kasi sabi mo na “ang galing at sakto ung term” …just saying na other versions the bible says “safety” and not security… thats not sakto and same term…

Hmmmm... Siguro kung hindi ko lang na E×ρréšš ng maayos yung sa "peace and security" kasi ang nabanggit ko ay yung term na iyon, bagaman sa ibang version ng bible ang ginamit ay "peace and safety", kaya humihingi ako ng paumanhin kung nalito ka sa bagay na yan. Pero ang point parin ay pareho, na darating ang panahon na sasabihin yan ng mga leaders o UN mismo, at nababanggit na nila yan ngayon palang para pag-usapan ito.


One more thing.. ung announcement na yan ni thomas eh a good thing given the situation.. pero ang mas may bearing sayo eh ung pagkaka”sakto” ng sinabi nea kesa dun sa mismong message nea.. na ang kasunod pa kamo eh “then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a preg.nant woman, and they will by no means escape." … so ur celebrating pa na magwoworse ung mangyayari???


Jeeeez….

for me kasi mas dapat icelebrate na its a step na hopefully would result to actual peace dun ukraine rather that sending a message na may unescapable sudden destruction pa na parating…

Don't get me wrong po.. Yeah, its a good thing na sana matapos na nga yung digmaan na nangyayari between Russia and Ukraine. Yun din po yung binanggit ko sa isang thread, tama po? Kaya nga kasama din sa prayers namin yung mga taong affected ng war especially yung mga kapatid naming JW na affected sa dalawang bansa na binanggit.

Now, kaya kami interested sa binanggit niya na "peace and security" ay dahil binanggit ng bible na darating ang panahon na sasabihin talaga yan ng UN or leaders ng ibat-ibang bansa, as a whole, as in ide-declare nila yung mga pananalita na yan o kamuka nito. Siyempre di naman po yan basta basta mangyayari, may proseso yan, di ko alam kung paano at kailan, pero darating sila sa point na ide-declare nila yan.

The fact na ngayon palang binabanggit na nila yan at pinag-uusapan, for us, that is something, dahil someday matutupad yung pangako ng Diyos na nasa bible, not that things will get worst, pero yung point na matatapos narin ang lahat ng problema ng tao.

Another factor ay ang kasama kasing bansa sa current war ay Russia, at base sa mga pag-aaral namin, sila ang tumatayong King of North ngayon.

Hindi ko maipapaliwanag lahat yan dito, at mahirap din ipaliwanag yan dito. Ni-post ko ang video at link na yan para ipakita lang yung sinabi ng bible na babanggitin talaga someday yung "peace and security", at kung maging aware ang mga makakakita o makakabasa non at gusto nila matuto pa about it, we are willing to help them. Now, kung di naman interested, okay lang din yun. Understood naman po iyon...

Again, kung interested po talaga malaman, meron namang mga explanation sa official website namin, or pwede mag-usap pero hindi dito sa forum :)
 
Hmmmm... Siguro kung hindi ko lang na E×ρréšš ng maayos yung sa "peace and security" kasi ang nabanggit ko ay yung term na iyon, bagaman sa ibang version ng bible ang ginamit ay "peace and safety", kaya humihingi ako ng paumanhin kung nalito ka sa bagay na yan. Pero ang point parin ay pareho, na darating ang panahon na sasabihin yan ng mga leaders o UN mismo, at nababanggit na nila yan ngayon palang para pag-usapan ito.
Dont apologized and say that im the one that got confused… there was no confusion on my part… u mentioned facts that the UN will mention “peace and security” and “saktong term” nga kamo ang sinabi based sa bible verse na u quoted…

I merely stated a fact as well na ibang versions ng bible says “peace and safety” and that it’s not exactly “saktong term”.. thAts my point jan…

I also stated facts na pillar ng UN ang peace and security, na integral sa organization nila when it was formed after WW2… and since pillar nga nila un eh its also a fact that they mentioned “peace and security” many times na nagkakaroon ng gulo kagaya ng nangyayari now…

Kung ang sinabi ng UN now eh peace and safety would u have quoted the same verse from the same version and still call it sakto??

Or would u have mentioned ung version that says “peace and safety” para sumakto lang din?

And di rin sa darating na panahon na sasabihin ang “peace and security” or sinabi sya now..matagal ng sinasabi ng UN un…

Ur just trying to fit ung paniniwala nyo sa current narrative…

Don't get me wrong po.. Yeah, its a good thing na sana matapos na nga yung digmaan na nangyayari between Russia and Ukraine. Yun din po yung binanggit ko sa isang thread, tama po? Kaya nga kasama din sa prayers namin yung mga taong affected ng war especially yung mga kapatid naming JW na affected sa dalawang bansa na binanggit.

Now, kaya kami interested sa binanggit niya na "peace and security" ay dahil binanggit ng bible na darating ang panahon na sasabihin talaga yan ng UN or leaders ng ibat-ibang bansa, as a whole, as in ide-declare nila yung mga pananalita na yan o kamuka nito. Siyempre di naman po yan basta basta mangyayari, may proseso yan, di ko alam kung paano at kailan, pero darating sila sa point na ide-declare nila yan.

The fact na ngayon palang binabanggit na nila yan at pinag-uusapan, for us, that is something, dahil someday matutupad yung pangako ng Diyos na nasa bible, not that things will get worst, pero yung point na matatapos narin ang lahat ng problema ng tao
So u prayed for them and tapos peace and security that declared based sa thread mo happened… whats next?? The “inescapable destruction” ryt?? Is that really comforting for people na gusto ng maging maayos ung situation??

Lets say ung fellow believers mo na directly naapektuhan found comfort pa din jan kasi nga looking like matutupad na ung pangako ni god senyo… matatapos ba lahat ng problema ng tao?? Or matatapos lang lahat ng problema ng mga taong kagaya mo ang pananaw?? U have to consider the fact na kung totoo yang sinasabi nyo then a lot.. millions if not billions will die or kung sa iba namn eh will be punished eternally… thats a good thing?? That ur god created mankind and proclaim to love his creation but willingly allow most of them to just die or suffer??
Another factor ay ang kasama kasing bansa sa current war ay Russia, at base sa mga pag-aaral namin, sila ang tumatayong King of North ngayon.
Currently may mga sanctions na against russia ang ibat ibang bansa… this puts tremendous pressure on russia and their country could suffer greatly…

Kung magmatigas nman ang russia eh pueding di mangyari ang “peace and security” now at sila ay pabagsakin ng ibat ibang bansa…

Sa bought scenario na yan the so called “king of the north” could lose.. kagaya ng nangyari sa former king of the north nyo na germany(na apparently eh siding with ukraine) … will russia still be a relevant fixture sa doctrine nyo kung babagsak sila?? Or will you proclaim a new king of the north by then?

Hindi ko maipapaliwanag lahat yan dito, at mahirap din ipaliwanag yan dito. Ni-post ko ang video at link na yan para ipakita lang yung sinabi ng bible na babanggitin talaga someday yung "peace and security", at kung maging aware ang mga makakakita o makakabasa non at gusto nila matuto pa about it, we are willing to help them. Now, kung di naman interested, okay lang din yun. Understood naman po iyon...

Again, kung interested po talaga malaman, meron namang mga explanation sa official website namin, or pwede mag-usap pero hindi dito sa forum :)
Yan na nman tayo eh…. U guys keep on posting things like this tapos when may discussion na ipopoint nyo somewhere else or wag dito sa forum pagusapan…

Cmon paps… if u really want others to learn and believe that what ur saying is true then itong gantong forum ang isang tool to achieve that… criticisms from me and others will showcase if ur arguments are convincing or not… if people will see both sides of the coin will help them decide on who to belive
 
Dont apologized and say that im the one that got confused… there was no confusion on my part… u mentioned facts that the UN will mention “peace and security” and “saktong term” nga kamo ang sinabi based sa bible verse na u quoted…

I merely stated a fact as well na ibang versions ng bible says “peace and safety” and that it’s not exactly “saktong term”.. thAts my point jan…

I also stated facts na pillar ng UN ang peace and security, na integral sa organization nila when it was formed after WW2… and since pillar nga nila un eh its also a fact that they mentioned “peace and security” many times na nagkakaroon ng gulo kagaya ng nangyayari now…

Kung ang sinabi ng UN now eh peace and safety would u have quoted the same verse from the same version and still call it sakto??

Or would u have mentioned ung version that says “peace and safety” para sumakto lang din?

And di rin sa darating na panahon na sasabihin ang “peace and security” or sinabi sya now..matagal ng sinasabi ng UN un…

Ur just trying to fit ung paniniwala nyo sa current narrative…


So u prayed for them and tapos peace and security that declared based sa thread mo happened… whats next?? The “inescapable destruction” ryt?? Is that really comforting for people na gusto ng maging maayos ung situation??

Lets say ung fellow believers mo na directly naapektuhan found comfort pa din jan kasi nga looking like matutupad na ung pangako ni god senyo… matatapos ba lahat ng problema ng tao?? Or matatapos lang lahat ng problema ng mga taong kagaya mo ang pananaw?? U have to consider the fact na kung totoo yang sinasabi nyo then a lot.. millions if not billions will die or kung sa iba namn eh will be punished eternally… thats a good thing?? That ur god created mankind and proclaim to love his creation but willingly allow most of them to just die or suffer??

Currently may mga sanctions na against russia ang ibat ibang bansa… this puts tremendous pressure on russia and their country could suffer greatly…

Kung magmatigas nman ang russia eh pueding di mangyari ang “peace and security” now at sila ay pabagsakin ng ibat ibang bansa…

Sa bought scenario na yan the so called “king of the north” could lose.. kagaya ng nangyari sa former king of the north nyo na germany(na apparently eh siding with ukraine) … will russia still be a relevant fixture sa doctrine nyo kung babagsak sila?? Or will you proclaim a new king of the north by then?


Yan na nman tayo eh…. U guys keep on posting things like this tapos when may discussion na ipopoint nyo somewhere else or wag dito sa forum pagusapan…

Cmon paps… if u really want others to learn and believe that what ur saying is true then itong gantong forum ang isang tool to achieve that… criticisms from me and others will showcase if ur arguments are convincing or not… if people will see both sides of the coin will help them decide on who to belive
Eh anu pa nga ba ang magagawa ng mga huwad edi ang panlilinlang ng alinman sa kanilang mga poison doctrine ✌️
 
Pro russian ka po ba? Ginagawa niyong masama U.N, although pinatunayan ng UN na hindi nila kayang kontrolin ang Russia, it doesnt mean na kasalanan ng U.N lahat, blame it on Russia
 
Dont apologized and say that im the one that got confused… there was no confusion on my part… u mentioned facts that the UN will mention “peace and security” and “saktong term” nga kamo ang sinabi based sa bible verse na u quoted…

I merely stated a fact as well na ibang versions ng bible says “peace and safety” and that it’s not exactly “saktong term”.. thAts my point jan…

I also stated facts na pillar ng UN ang peace and security, na integral sa organization nila when it was formed after WW2… and since pillar nga nila un eh its also a fact that they mentioned “peace and security” many times na nagkakaroon ng gulo kagaya ng nangyayari now…

Kung ang sinabi ng UN now eh peace and safety would u have quoted the same verse from the same version and still call it sakto??

Or would u have mentioned ung version that says “peace and safety” para sumakto lang din?

And di rin sa darating na panahon na sasabihin ang “peace and security” or sinabi sya now..matagal ng sinasabi ng UN un…

Ur just trying to fit ung paniniwala nyo sa current narrative…


So u prayed for them and tapos peace and security that declared based sa thread mo happened… whats next?? The “inescapable destruction” ryt?? Is that really comforting for people na gusto ng maging maayos ung situation??

Lets say ung fellow believers mo na directly naapektuhan found comfort pa din jan kasi nga looking like matutupad na ung pangako ni god senyo… matatapos ba lahat ng problema ng tao?? Or matatapos lang lahat ng problema ng mga taong kagaya mo ang pananaw?? U have to consider the fact na kung totoo yang sinasabi nyo then a lot.. millions if not billions will die or kung sa iba namn eh will be punished eternally… thats a good thing?? That ur god created mankind and proclaim to love his creation but willingly allow most of them to just die or suffer??

Currently may mga sanctions na against russia ang ibat ibang bansa… this puts tremendous pressure on russia and their country could suffer greatly…

Kung magmatigas nman ang russia eh pueding di mangyari ang “peace and security” now at sila ay pabagsakin ng ibat ibang bansa…

Sa bought scenario na yan the so called “king of the north” could lose.. kagaya ng nangyari sa former king of the north nyo na germany(na apparently eh siding with ukraine) … will russia still be a relevant fixture sa doctrine nyo kung babagsak sila?? Or will you proclaim a new king of the north by then?


Yan na nman tayo eh…. U guys keep on posting things like this tapos when may discussion na ipopoint nyo somewhere else or wag dito sa forum pagusapan…

Cmon paps… if u really want others to learn and believe that what ur saying is true then itong gantong forum ang isang tool to achieve that… criticisms from me and others will showcase if ur arguments are convincing or not… if people will see both sides of the coin will help them decide on who to belive

Hmmmm... okay na po. Salamat sa time sir 😌
 
ρrø russian ka po ba? Ginagawa niyong masama U.N, although pinatunayan ng UN na hindi nila kayang kontrolin ang Russia, it doesnt mean na kasalanan ng U.N lahat, blame it on Russia
Bakit kelangan kontrolin ng un ang russia?

Huwag tayong magbulagabulagan hindi nyu ba nakikita na pinagaaway lang ng eu ang magkakapit bahay na mga bansa halimbawa nalang ng usapin ng wps... iyang nangyari sa ukraine kamuntik ng sapitin ng bansa mu kung nagpasulsol lang sa mga puti ang namumuno dito ,gising diwa gising, ang iraq at iran sa lumipas na mga panahon , ang israel at palestine, ang china at taiwan maging ang hongkong,,,,, etc.
Pinaghihina or pinababagsak nito ang dalawang malalaking bansa na nagiging tinik sa lalamunan nila sa lahat ng larangan lalong lalo na ang mga ekonomiya ng mga ito at sa BUONG continente sa loob ng asia hind nyu ba yan nakikita , gamit ang gasgas na dahilan na threat to home land security,,, sabay ipapataw ang economic sanction. ( cannot buy or sell ) sila ang nagpapatupad niyan 👉eu ,,, after ng war na sila lang din ang nagsisilab...

Blame it on russia daw ,,, hahahah
subukan mu silipin ang mga ito sir baka sakaling malinawan ka kung bakit hindi papayag ang russian na magpailalim sa eu. Hinding hindi mu yan makikita kung ang titignan mu lang ay ang kasalukuyan kaganapan kelangan maghalungkat ka ng kasaysayan upang maunawaan ang masalimoot na usapin ng geopoloitics na
Pananaw

1 trans atlantic slave trade
2 opium war 1 & 2
3 colonialism sa bansa mu
4 operation barbarossa
5 philliphine genocide
6 berlin conference

Hulaan mu kung sino ang mga bida sa mga event nyan,,,

Gud luck sa wisdom mu sir ✌️....

ρrø russian ka po ba? Ginagawa niyong masama U.N, although pinatunayan ng UN na hindi nila kayang kontrolin ang Russia, it doesnt mean na kasalanan ng U.N lahat, blame it on Russia
Ang russia po ang proASIA kaya mali ang sinabi mu na prorussia ,,, hahahahah

Peace.....
 
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