🔒 Closed ECQ need pa ba ng qpass if vaccinated na?

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Hello po ask ko lang, nung humihingi po kasi ako ng qpass sa barangay hindi na ako binigyan kasi pwede naman daw yung vaccination card. Pero kanina may kapitbahay akong hindi pinapasok sa isang establishment (kempmart para mag grocery) dahil walang qpass pero pinakita naman nya yung vaccination card niya hindi pa rin pinapasok.

Yung question ko po is pwede kaya akong pumasok ng 7/11? Kahit walang qpass? I know my question may sound stupid, nakakalito lang kasi talaga mga pamamalakad nila. Ang gulo. Caloocan po ako.
 
Nabasa ko nga rin sa balita. Di pa ECQ sa area namin pero malapit na siguro. Klaro naman na "quarantine pass" (QPASS) at hindi "vaccination card" (VC) ang kailangan lamang to enter an establishment that requires one. Hindi mandatory ang VC. Ultimo requirement sa QPASS na designated sa 1 person for each household does not require an applicant to be vaccinated, though preferred.
Kung ang 7/11 requires a QPASS to enter, you need to have one. Pero nasa management na nila kung papapasukin ka using a vaccination card - just common sense. They're public places with an option to allow o prevent you from entering. Use a little bit of persuasion in real life situation, para ma-bypass mo yan kahit saan . Di naman parating "by the book" yung itaboy ka because of such law. It's really up to them. Tao rin ang mga yan! Kaya lang, kung mahigpit sila, you have to find another store. Be open-minded na lang bosing.
 
Nabasa ko nga rin sa balita. Di pa ECQ sa area namin pero malapit na siguro. Klaro naman na "quarantine pass" (QPASS) at hindi "vaccination card" (VC) ang kailangan lamang to enter an establishment that requires one. Hindi mandatory ang VC. Ultimo requirement sa QPASS na designated sa 1 person for each household does not require an applicant to be vaccinated, though preferred.
Kung ang 7/11 requires a QPASS to enter, you need to have one. Pero nasa management na nila kung papapasukin ka using a vaccination card - just common sense. They're public places with an option to allow o prevent you from entering. Use a little bit of persuasion in real life situation, para ma-bypass mo yan kahit saan . Di naman parating "by the book" yung itaboy ka because of such law. It's really up to them. Tao rin ang mga yan! Kaya lang, kung mahigpit sila, you have to find another store. Be open-minded na lang bosing.
Okay po maganda po explanation niyo sir kaya madali nakuha yung point. Ano naman po opinyon niyo sa hindi nako binigyan ng qpass dahil may vc naman na daw ako? Tried to get qpass again this morning pero sabi sakin "Pwede na yang vaccine card kahit saan" word-per-word po yan sinabi sakin.

Yung sa 7/11 naman thankfully pinayagan naman ako
 
Okay po maganda po explanation niyo sir kaya madali nakuha yung point. Ano naman po opinyon niyo sa hindi nako binigyan ng qpass dahil may vc naman na daw ako? Tried to get qpass again this morning pero sabi sakin "Pwede na yang vaccine card kahit saan" word-per-word po yan sinabi sakin.

Yung sa 7/11 naman thankfully pinayagan naman ako
Maluwag pa sa area ninyo he he - swerte mo. Pero ang "standard" regulation, 1 per household ang mabibigyan ng QPASS base sa general guidelines ng DILG like in the past, na actually mandatory para sa mga Authorized Persons Outside of Residence (APORs). Yung lumang QPASS noong nakaraan ay pwede rin gamitin at pwede mong hiramin yung merong QPASS sa family ninyo since isa lang ang painapayagang lumabas ng bahay. Pero kung sa area ninyo ay pinapayagan ang VC card, eh di mas mainam. Pero sa ibang areas na ECQ rin ay baka di yan pahintulutan, so be aware. Since ECQ is just a week for now, di pa siguro well distributed yung pagbibigay ng new QPASS applicants sa mga areas kaya siguro VC card na lang yung option sa ngayon ng mga LGUs.
 
Mejo dangerous din yung belief na kapag vaccinated na eh hindi na kailangan ng Qpass kasi ang purpose ng pass is icontrol ang number of people sa labas habang ang VC is proof na bakunado kana. What if lahat kayo sa bahay vaccinated hindi parin kasi ibig sabihin dapat lahat nasa labas. Feeling ko lang mali yung pagkaka interpret dun sa purpose ng Qpass ng lgu mo papi.

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Mejo dangerous din yung belief na kapag vaccinated na eh hindi na kailangan ng Qpass kasi ang purpose ng pass is icontrol ang number of people sa labas habang ang VC is proof na bakunado kana. What if lahat kayo sa bahay vaccinated hindi parin kasi ibig sabihin dapat lahat nasa labas. Feeling ko lang mali yung pagkaka interpret dun sa purpose ng Qpass ng lgu mo papi.

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I fully agree. First, ECQ and the QPASS guidelines are the same preventive measures to control the spread, limiting no. of people travelling and closed contact as the threat is already in place. It's just a procedure to try and keep it in check - like holding our ground as much as we can.
Being vaccinated is an additional "personal" preventive measure if you need to move a lot or just need some type of protection. But it doesn't mean you're free to roam or be exempted from such special restrictions. Vaccine-induced immunity protects us from being infected by definition in various degrees. Though vaccine immunity is not entirely perfect, we are given a higher chance of having less complications if infected.
If the pandemic virus mutates, it weakens our immunity over time depending on the immunogen in which the vaccine was made against the variant. (That's the uncertainty for the vaccinated as the virus mutations are still on-going faster than approval of new vaccines. But the experts already know this. So, we'll need to have our next booster shots and be aware of vaccine developments as the threat continues. )
You can still be infected and become a carrier unknowingly if our antigens fail. We already know the Delta variant has the same features as its cousins, with low mortality rate, but highly contagious than previous. Even with the same death rate, the more people are infected, the greater the risk of increasing the no. of deaths on susceptible individuals. Though COVID-19 is just about 7th on the leading source of deaths ( the rest being "non-communicable diseases") here in the Philippines, it's the no.1 "communicable disease" right now. That is why we have these types of quarantine procedures. We don't like it, but we have to be one in the "cause" to protect ourselves and others while vaccinations continue. Positive effects of vaccination will take much much longer for us, especially if containment fails.
As comparison, Indonesia, with a population of around 277 million already had +73 million doses administered (as of Aug. 7) facing the Delta variant. They had already administered around 27 million doses when the surge began. It took them around 1.5 months to control it slowly while we (@+111 million population) have around +23 million doses administered (as of Aug. 5) and already seeing the surge. At a rate of around 21 vaccines administered/100 individuals (and growing) + some varying restrictions, we still need more time to improve, to see the effects and uncertain of what happens in the next weeks or months. Chill out and get used to this type of conditions.
With regards to this necessity of vaccination card during "ECQ" concerning who's allowed to go out or not, travel, enter a building or not, etc. , there is no distinction between vaccinated and non-vaccinated individuals during ECQ yet. Again, in ECQ, only APORs are allowed with or without QPASS (like workers who only need employment ID and a certificate of employment). QPASS is specifically for those buying essential goods for the household which they call consumer-APORs. It has no relation to VC at all. Since there is restriction for travel during ECQ, you have to wait till ECQ expires and downgrades (to GCQ/MGCQ). Now, the vaccination cards can be used by anyone (including non-APORs and senior citizens) for intrazonal movement /interzonal travel guidelines, the same additional conditions supplied a previously by the IATF. Lastly, a "no vaccine, no entry" policy is an establishment prerogative only. Our quarantine protocols are gradually changing over time bit by bit, so be aware of the revisions.
It's not perfect, but I hope this clears the issue.
 
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