❓ Help Magpapavaccine o hindi? Nakakatakot eh

[Hazama]

Sino naturukan ng vaccine na dito? Anong effect? Plano ko sana magpavaccine dahil may nagaantay na trabaho sakin sa Papua New Guinea kaso lang yung company na inapplyan ko is di sila magpapapasok kung hindi navaccine. Nagdadalawang isip pa ako kung magpapainject pa ako o hindi.

Susugal nalang ako kung ano man ang pwedeng mangyari para sa kinabukasan ko at sa pamilya ko.

Anong pwedeng marecommend nyo na vaccine if ever? Salamat sa sasagot.

 

[OrangeMoon]

mekie2013 Pa share po ng source niyo nito, related ba ito sa "imprinting" sa immune system?

Ito useful na site para ma evaluate kung kapani paniwala yung source niyo:
Finding Credible Vaccine Information
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[OrangeMoon]

Yakang yaka yan paps tristanGMP
Sana makahanap ka ng trusted na Doktor, kaya kang i-reassure niyan sa mga doubts mo.
Hindi ka naman tuturukan basta basta, ini evaluate naman, may interview naman.
Kung talagang risky sa kaso niyo, hindi kayo tuturukan.

 

[OrangeMoon]

Jzon18 - Buti OK ka sa vaccine paps. Paturok ka na ASAP.
Totoong minadali yung vaccine, pero hindi naman na skip yung mga importanteng parte.
Tsaka tama naman na ideally 5 years.

Fully explained naman dito sa article kung bakit OK lang na 1 year+ lang e nagawa na ang vaccine.
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1. The COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna were created with a method that has been in development for years, so the companies could start the vaccine development process early in the pandemic.
2. China isolated and shared genetic information about COVID-19 promptly, so scientists could start working on vaccines.
3. The vaccine developers didn’t skip any testing steps, but conducted some of the steps on an overlapping schedule to gather data faster.
4. Vaccine projects had plenty of resources, as governments invested in research and/or ρáíd for vaccines in advance.
5. Some types of COVID-19 vaccines were created using messenger RNA (mRNA), which allows a faster approach than the traditional way that vaccines are made.
6. Social media helped companies find and engage study volunteers, and many were willing to help with COVID-19 vaccine research.
7. Because COVID-19 is so contagious and widespread, it did not take long to see if the vaccine worked for the study volunteers who were vaccinated.
8. Companies began making vaccines early in the process — even before FDA authorization — so some supplies were ready when authorization occurred.

 

[Splekenesis]

wag kna magpa vaccine kitdi

 

[urbanhumba]

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OrangeMoon

Recent interview ng nag-discover ng mRna Vaccines paps.


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[urbanhumba]

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[OrangeMoon]

Paps, yang VAERS.hhs.gov, kahit sino pwedeng mag-report diyan.
Hindi porke ni-report e verified na, na yung COVID vaccine ang nag cause ng problem.
Ginawa yang reporting system ng CDC etc. para madali nilang makalap yung mga cases.
Pag ma yang report, kino contact nila at vina validate, case by case.
"Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem."

Simula pa 1988 yan paps, 30 years ago na yan: "Since its inception in 1988, anti-vaccine groups have cherry-picked VAERS data and twisted it out of context to show the supposed dangers of vaccines." You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Si Malone naman, hindi "inventor" ng mRNA vaccine.
Kung talagang may valid claim siya diyan, matagal na dapat siyang nag file ng lawsuit or patent claim. Siguradong panalo dapat siya, kasi kumpleto naman mag document ang mga scientist.
Ganito dapat gawin ni Malone, parang yung nangyari sa HIV/AIDS "discovery" dispute.
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Walang actual na "inventor" mismo ng mRNA vaccine or process.
(BioNTech/Pfizer, Astra/Moderna ang mga gumawa)
Madaming nag contribute, karamihan "faceless/nameless", grupo yan, taga U. Penn at U. Wisconsin.
Kahit sila Kariko & Weismann na ni-re-recognize ng karamihan, hindi nila kini-claim ang credit.
Sinasabi lang nila na nag contribute nga sila at nag patent sila.

Yung sa video mo paps nasagot na dito yung mga misleading na claims ni Malone:
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Kaya sila sini-censor, nagkakalat sila ng disinformation / misinformation / "fake news".
Isa ka sa biktima nila paps. Sayang at mukha ka pa namang nag re-research ka nang mabuti.
May problema lang yung mga sources mo.

Try mo dito ang mga sources paps, kasi nag fa-fact check itong mga ito, credible at trustworthy:
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[DCopacobana22]

gayyem..

To TS, it's better to be vaccinated than not. The different variants are evolving so we need protection to be not at risk of severe illness or death from COVID infection.

 

[Superhero]

maraming dahilan para magpakuna. kung hindi ka naniniwala sa bakuna for compliance nalang... bakit? halimbawa travel ka hanapan ka ng vaccine card o certificate. saan ka sa magbabayad ka 5k ba yon para sa test kada byahe mo o libre bakuna para labas pasok ka sa probinsya o saan lugar na hanapan ka ng ganun?

 

[Xpmove12]

Mga Ka ph Karamihan Buhay pa naman iba dito sa amin Dose1, sa dose2 may mga namatay pero matanda na age 70+, yung iba na 50+ naturukan dose2 May side effect tuwing hapon laging inaantok at nagkakamanas yung paa, yung iba naman nanghina at sumakit ang mga buto sa paa hanggang Arthritis 10 to 15 days. yung iba inde na nagpaturok dose2 dahil nga may mga namatay, depende kac kung kaya tanggapin ng katawan yung gamot pag di kaya, patay ang bagsak. Inde po ito tsismis nakita ko mismo dto sa lugar namin at nakausap pa mismo yung mga tao. Good luck and God bless sa maunang magpa bakuna, mukhang iiksi ang buhay, wala naman sakit bat magpapabakuna. Dami namatay sa stress dto sa panahon ng covid dto sa province namon napansin ko lang

 

[OrangeMoon]

Paps, dapat i-report sa DOH yang deaths para ma verify. Sureball lalabas sa news yan, pupuntahan kayo ng media.
Importante sa DOH yang info na yan kasi isasama sa apg evaluate nila ng vaccine.

Pero hindi dapat nating sabihin dahil mismo sa vaccine yung cause, maaring may ibang problema.
Reports of adverse events following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem.

 

[xXmartoXx]

Ang dami ditong nagtatanggol sa covid19 vaccine....Akala mo siguradong tatagal pa ng 10 years ang mga buhay ng mga naturukan na nito.

Mag research muna kayong maigi....Pagnabakunahan na...wala nang balikan....Kung ano na ang kapalaran mo sa hinaharap yun na yun.

Kung ang real effect nyan sa tao ay after a year....Atleast ikaw mismo na nabakunahan ay naka experience nito......Be proud kasi sumubok ka.

Para kang naging dagang testers....Goodluck sa mga nabakunahan na....Always pray na lang ....Na sana walang masamang mangyari sa inyo.

 

[OrangeMoon]

"Mag research muna kayong maigi" - Agreed dito paps.
Pwede mo bang ishare yung links ng mga na research mo na source?
Baka kasi sa social media lang yan paps. Or galing sa mga non-journalists na walang ethics.
Kasi importanteng malaman natin kung talagang may danger yung vaccine.

Pero dapat credible at verified yung mga sources natin

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[xXmartoXx]

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Luge na ba yung mga multi-billion businesses ng vaccine?

Pabawiin naman ninyo sila sa puhunan nila.....Kahit maibalik man lang ang kanilang puhunan.

"Ang daming troll ngayon."

 

[OrangeMoon]

"Pabawiin naman ninyo sila"
Kumita talaga sila dyan, nagkaroon nga ng newly minted billionaires, tulad sa Moderna.
Ideally, nagtulungan dapat lahat ng bansa para i-develop ang vaccine. Kaso hindi nama united ang mundo.
Competition at Kapitalista kasi ang dominant ngayon, pati nga Russia at China aminado dyan.

Siguro paps kung naghirap ka din at nakadevelop ng effective na vaccine,
dapat mabayaran din yung efforts mo di ba?

Anyway, beside the point naman yan.
Kung effective naman talaga yung vaccine, bakit mo sila hindi babayaran?

"Akala mo siguradong tatagal pa ng 10 years ang mga buhay ng mga naturukan"
Baka gusto mong i-share paps kung bakit may statement kang ganito. May sources ka ba?
Saan galing yung figure na 10 years?
Kung fact yan, i fact check natin, may verfied source dapat.
Kung opinyon naman, then OK, may right ka to your opinion.

"Para kang naging dagang testers"
In a way, medyo nga, kasi hindi yung usual na 5 years na development. Pero naka-explain naman sa baba kung bakit 1 year lang.
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Tsaka, nagkaroon naman ng mraming trials, libu libo yun.
Phase 3 trials:
Pfizer and BioNTech: 43,000
Moderna: 30,000+
Sputnik V: 40,000
WHO Solidarity Trial : 12,000
CureVac: 36,500
Zydus Cadila: 30,000
CanSino/Convidecia: 50,000
J&J / Janssen: 45,000
Abdala: 48,000
Novavax: 30,000

 

[MackriderX]

Hindi nko natatakot sa covid sa mga nabakunahan na ko nag aalala. Dahil mas lalo nila pinapalaganap ang virus through vaccinated person.
The virus spread itself. Juicekoloyd. Kahit yung mga un vaccinated delikado na sa mga nagkalat na vaccinated na tao kasi magiging airborne na yung s-protein galing sa bakulaw or galing sa body fluid. kung ka family mo sya mataas chance na magkaroon ka . Spike protein na dinedevelop ng vaccine mas delikado.

Magsaliksik nalang kayo. Goodluck sa mga naturukan na at ibinabandera pa sa FB posting their pic na vaccine na sila at congrats pa mga nag cocomments hahaha. Sinovac congrats uggggh

 

[OrangeMoon]

"The virus spread itself" - Technically, imposible ito paps.
Hindi naman "buhay" ang virus, di sya nakaka-"galaw" mag-isa. (Pero may debate pa kung ano ang definition ng"alive".)
Kailangan nya ng host na magdadala at magkakalat sa kaniya.
(Para siyang buto ng mga prutas, kailangan may ibon, hayop, o hangin na magkakalat sa kaniya)
Tapos sa loob ng host lang niya kayang "dumami".
Ang fully vaccinated na tao na walang COVID-19 hindi makaka-spread ng COVID.
Imposibleng makakuha ng COVID-19 from vaccine, kasi walang "active" COVID virus sa vaccine.

Syempre pwede pa ring mahawa ang taong bakunado, tapos makaka-pag spread na siya ng COVID.
Kaya ka lang magpapabakuna, para bumagsak yung chance na magka severe COVID ka, or mamatay.

Ang vaccinated or non-vaccinated na tao, pag nahawa ng COVID, sila lang ang pwedeng mag spread ng virus.
Pero ang hindi bakunado, lalo na kung may asthma tulad ni TS, mas malaki ang chance na magka severe COVID, o mamatay.

"airborne na yung s-protein"
Yung spike protein (yun ba yung s-protein niyo?) ay hindi virus. External part siya ng virus, gamit niya para makapasok sa cells natin.
Yung nasa vaccine na s-protein ay "mimic" lang at harmless, para lang mag ready yung katawan natin with antibodies. Pagdating nung COVID, maba block na yung s-proteins niya. Iwas sa severe COVID, Iwas mamatay.

"Magsaliksik nalang kayo."
Malamang kay Byram Bridle galing yung misinformation na delikado ang s-protein, eto yung fact check niyan.
Jason McLellan, a structural biologist at the University of Texas at Austin who has been studying spike proteins in other coronaviruses for years and whose work was fundamental for the development of COVID-19 vaccines, said Bridle’s statements are not correct.
“The spike protein is not pathogenic. It is not a toxin,” McLellan told us in an email. “I have not seen any data to support what Bridle claims.”
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Pag mag re research tayo paps, ingat tayo sa sources natin. Kailangan credible at verified.
Ingat kay Bridle, kasi misleading yung mga statements niya.
"authors of two of the studies he cites told us their findings don’t back Bridle’s statements."
“Bridle is taking our results and completely misinterpreting them,” said You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., a member of the faculty at Harvard Medical School and of Harvard’s Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering, who co-authored a study that found circulating SARS-CoV-2 vaccine antigen in the plasma of vaccine recipients.
(emphasis/bold mine)
(from same article, factcheck.org)

Sa usatoday:
Bridle said his claims were "completely backed up by peer-reviewed, scientific publications."
But they're not.
An author of the study Bridle cited during the interview said Bridle "over-interpreted" its results. And several of Bridle's colleagues told USA TODAY his claims about spike proteins are wrong.
(emphasis/bold mine)
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"Sinovac congrats uggggh"
May mga may baseball cap pa na "Pfizer Vaccinated".
Sabi nga ng DOH, take whatever is available. Lahat iwas severe COVID, iwas mamatay.
What is preferred is to “get vaccinated as soon as you can, when it's your turn."
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The key right now is to not wait. Get the vaccine that you have access to first.
Bottom line: Take the vaccine that you are offered. All three vaccines are safe and effective. Think about other vaccines we take, like for the flu vaccine. Most of us don't ask which company manufactures it. We just care that it works.
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[xTaC468]

scamdemic